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In this episode Brett interviews Vinnie Tortorich. Also known as America’s Angriest Trainer.
Vinnie runs a podcast show that receives over 350k downloads a month. He was a runner up in Audible.com audio book of the year.
He is also a personal trainer to the stars. QUOTE “I keep chicks on the red carpet”
We discuss:
- How to start your very own book
- How Vinnie became a success without even knowing it
- How publishing companies didn’t want to know about him until NOW
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Brett:
Hello and welcome to the professional podcast, Brett Campbell here and today I have a very special guest hailing all the way of the other side of the planet, of the world, not the planet but you get the paycheck to another fantastic Vinnie Tortorich, I hope I got the last name right buddy! but you be able to correct me in a moment if I was wrong stressing about that a little bit but Vinnie say being in a fitness industry for a little over 30 years, he’s made his first self-publish book called, Fitness confidential” and that was actually just up for one of the major awards in the audible audio books then it will out and tell us all about that in a moment. He also runs an extremely popular podcast called “America’s angriesttrainer”. So certainly asking about that and the podcast gets a 350,000 downloads per month so he’s got his finger on the post and then also Vinnie in his own words says he keeps sheets on the red carpet. So we’ll talk about that as well So Vinnie thank you very much and welcome to the Fiit professional podcast.
Vinnie:
Brett the one place when everyone asks me whenever I give interviews. How to pronounce Tortorich I think your search having before we went on, and that’s the one place till we got away from and you didn’t ask but I mean it’s kind of odd but it is Tortorich.
Brett:
Excellent! Fantastic and I guess there’s few key points that I like to ask you myself. To give the listener a bit of a background about yourself. All handle the fan of you and give us a little bit of a background on may I know your time in the industry and to what’s happening for Vinnie.
Vinnie:
Okay just to give you, just a brief overview I literally into a gym when I was 8 years old we talk about that and that was confident and I’ve been in the gym my entire life about time when I was 16 I was running that gym from my buddy Jill Barmejon whose started the gym. By the time I got to college on football scholarship I was holding into just a whole Hoffman steel. So I got my degree and I was going for a degree than the therapy and ended up getting a degree and exercise physiology and I have P.E degree and I started working with people long before the term trainer and I’m doing air quote trade now. What was the thing back in 1981 or 82 there were couple of trainers around the country I was once of them and would be talk to Bob because there was so few of us that’s sounds crazy but magazines and newspapers will call up , ” What do you do for a living?” and would the term “Trainer” wasn’t even really a thing yet but that’s my background and 1991 I moved out to Los Angeles and as you said Brett I got him for Hollywood crowd, I can’t even explain how that happened, I don’t know how it happened but when I got in I was able to do some good work right away and I started getting known as the “Quick Race of the sky” which I never lied to a title but it’s a vile so I must be hired of 3 [inaudible 0:03:33.6] and here I am 2014 we take a soft published book and it’s a big publishes out there in the game it is “fitness confidential” in amazon since came out last July 2nd and yeah I just got back t New York from a [inaudible 0:03:53:0] were my book was up for autobook.com book of the year we won 5 we do not win when I was very honored that for self-start book that had no dollar behind it, no advertising dollars or whatsoever. So it an audible copy to actually be considered book of the year but that’s my entire story I am going to handle my bag…
Brett:
Okay! So excellent Vinnie I know you said your book was 1 of the top 5 [inaudible 04:26] and how I heard about that was another gold [inaudible 0:04:29.6] Thomas’s book was out there as well and I’m sure you both have fantastic books but the great thing about that is a bit of your wave of magic wand a couple of years ago and when you first started writing this book. You probably never, you could have made it to that particular level like you talking about that best books in the world so let’s talk about fitness confidential because I know you’re telling me a little bit about it before the show, it’s really intriguing. So give us a bit of a background on what is fitness confidential about and why did you write it?
Vinnie
Why I wrote it was I didn’t want to write a book. I know everyone wants to write a book I’d written a chunks of book years ago that was started since I was small and the [inaudible 0:05:16:4] and I know the answer now in writing a book then when my buddy Dean Lorie. Dean Lorrie is a Hollywood writer which is who written 6 or 7 books in his life but he is more or less to TV and movie writings. Probably the most honorable thing he gone on has been arrested the [inaudible 0:05:38:8] he heard my wife and kids. He wrote me due pain, he wrote one of the Friday the 13th movie. The guys knows what’s wrong when writing in and he kept telling me you really need to write down your story because I almost died in 2007 from leukemia and Dean said you can’t Dean knows about my work in the Hollywood community from these years and he said you can’t die and not let this stuff out there, and Dean and I have a scotch very Friday night and he would talk to me every week and you really have to start writing and he was the empathy set me writing. He did agree to sit down with me. We sat in the same room every day for 6 months 3 hours a day come up with the best that would come up with.
Brett:
Yeah! That’s fantastic so to give us a little bit of background about what the books about and who does it really appealed to because I know it’s making some waves and getting some people’s feelings [inaudible 0:06:40:5] so…
Vinnie:
Yeah! You know well first of all the book and the script didn’t want to touch it because they said they never seen a fitness book like this before because it doesn’t teach how to lose 10 lbs. in 10 days or get wash for that and all the other stuff that all the other books guaranteed. There is no guarantee on this book and I literally caught to the matter for people… I say cards and [inaudible 0:07:08:8] but that’s… I’m so old that [inaudible 0:07:12:0] say I get emails by hundreds everyday in you would be shock in how many of them come from other trainers from around the world are gym’s… Guys do not own big box gym, but they own like Johnnies golf club or the kind of gym that trainer goes to and what not and they appreciate the book because they’re all saying, ” Is the book everyone’s you read?” because I really do poem of [inaudible 0:07:38:0] I know you’re in Australia and we have a big audience in Australia and Australians love me because I don’t know how to pull a pot, I just say, “Here are the facts, here’s what’s going on, here’s how we can fix it”. It’s the only book that tells you how to negotiate when you go to the health’s club because I liken those things to use car locks. When you got to use car locks at least if you put your money at, you get to live with a car. When you go to a gym, you put your money up, you still have nothing, and you still have to go to the gym to make it work. So we explain that to the crowd and so many people appreciate that approach. We trying to give them tools to… we thought them with the best fits of fitness equipment in the world is… In my opinion, it’s a jump rope because you get everything done with one piece of equipment and you can make it yourself. But when you build those kinds of stories it makes you kind of, “Oh Yeah!” this is a real thing and this is something that I can get behind.
Brett:
Yeah, I couldn’t agree more with you there it’s the unknown words of the gym and those types of things because there’s so many… I guess you’d look at the majority of the made your gym change I actually bank on over 30% members not turning up to the gym because they couldn’t hold the capacity of members going in there so it’s good refreshing tonight that these more information are there for people to be able to look at and I guess get another yes perspective on how this things work. So let’s stay on the book for a moment and what made your number 1 calling it fitness confidential. Where did that come from?
Vinnie:
We thought of it. There was great book out there called “fitness confidential” Anthony Barbane and when we finish the book Dean and I we did all the editing and everything else. We Hired another girl at the end, we took my notes, I’ve written 40,000 words of notes and we flies it up to make maybe a hundred and ten thousand words and then we [ inaudible 0:09:54:3] That’s why people love the book, it’s a page turner we withered it down to like a 70 or 71 thousand words and we didn’t leave any flaws in there and you get exactly what you need to get and by the way when you hear page turner and set it up could usually doesn’t go hand in hand. I was telling you that now… I lost control of the question, can you give me the…
Brett:
Yeah sure! No problem! I was just talking about where did the name come from? So you’re saying the book…
Vinnie:
Oh yeah..So the name, when we wrote this kind of book and we read through it, it reminds us of Anthony Barbane’s book. We decided, “Hey this book is getting confidential” it did great for that name. When I got to fitness confidential because it’s the same kind of book were we talk about the nasty under valley of the fitness world in how the in consumer can do better because of it? So it kind of came out of that name, and by the way that was something else to publish here’s what you take. They said even if they took the book, they would never call it fitness confidential because it was too close to Anthony Barbane’s getting confidential.
Brett:
hmm… But… That’s interesting isn’t it? because… let’s just talk about that from a minute… and I guess for the personal… for the fitness professional the majority of our listeners here in this show and what would you say to them, what’s your piece of advice to them initially say [0:11:22:8] I’ve got a book that I want to write but I don’t know which path do I need to take with or even start when it comes to writing your own book.
Vinnie:
That’s a good question and you are Brett, I wish more people would ask that question. No one asked that question but the first thing you do is to know if you have a book… It’s one thing to be sitting over with a beer, “Hey I can write about this”, “Hey I can write about that”. The first thing you have to talk about something that you intimately know everything about and it has to be people want knowledge. The 2nd thing you have to do is write a crazy amount of notes. You can sit there and go “Hey I can write a book and I could talk about you” just exercise or I can talk about how to use staffs, and I could talk about ball exercises but can you really fill the entire book with this stuff? But if you start writing notes and you have enough notes to where you can formulate it into a conversation that you will. Especially if you know everything about that subject. If you know everything about using scraps or everything about high density edible training. Start with the basic, write the notes and this starts of flashing of notes are. Never think about the book, never think of the end product just get the information first. You can always look at the end product later.
Brett:
So in regards to that, would you… because I mean all of heard from several different people of obviously have written books before and the spices this many different ways to go about it so, what you’re saying is just get ruthless on note taking and before you’ve even create it… i guess the structure of the book, would you meant about the contents of what type of things you’d want in the book first or would you just kick crazy on those notes?
Vinnie:
You could map that out and from mapping it out you will start coming up with notes so you’ll literally 2 things going on at once. You have to start your book which is great. We kind of took my notes and created a structural of the notes so that could be like backwards and but it’s what we did. I just decided to write the notes just to get everything down, just put it on a paper and I literally wrote it on a paper by the way and then I would punched it in to my computer. I always have something to write on I tell to everyone, “If you’re going to write a book, always, always, always have something to write on” I’ve save all of my pieces of paper that I wrote on and I literally have hold and leaved that on the ground. I have labeled on wine bottles that I wrote notes on and I have toilet paper. I’m telling you just go on by some 5 size of cards and just carry it with you. When this thoughts comes in your head, write it down, and then get it to them into your structure.
Brett:
Excellent… So in regards to writing a book, now there’s always going to be times were It’s not go on smooth sailing and with that you would’ve went if you big lessons and producing your book so what are the biggest lessons that you could save us time for the person out there whose looking to write their own book. What can you suggest for us there?
Vinnie:
Well if you got to go on self-publish route with it, I would suggest that everyone because you get to control everything and I would say if you got to self-publish route you’re okay if not, I wouldn’t write the entire book if you’re going to publish it because they’re going to rewrite the book anyway. They’re got too wanted to be their book but if you go with synopsis, so you don’t really have to write the whole book you can do the outline [inaudible 0:15:20:3] and then go to those guys. You have a much better chance if you write the whole book and it’s something that like and they would just move on to the next book. Get some point when we were in New York, Dean and I took meeting with probably 3 or 4 publishers we’ve figured they wanted me… and we just went to the idea of 2nd book and funny enough, they came back to us that 2 of the 3 already come back with the May 6 figure offers we’ve turned both offers down they didn’t quite understand that we really made way more than they will offer to us. So on the 1st book I have sell, that’s why I would suggest that anyone [inaudible0:16:03:2] publish. The other thing if you got to self-publishis, you have to get some kind of web presence on. I had 0 web presence, even after the book was present. So I took a whole year before the book came out and so the angriest fan of podcast and those [inaudible 0:16:25:01] when a book came out I guess between a 125 and a 150,000 downloads from us, which is enough to get to those people to gone buy the book and then started the train and now you have the book which is in the podcast, the podcast questioning book and it just became the times fo perfect for us, but go back when I said beginning, always, always, always had you going to publishers, don’t worry about writing the whole book, just get the poems , get the poems, they will decide whether they want it or not.
Brett:
Excellent. So question with self-publishing, let’s say you’ve got your notes together and would you suggest that if you self-publishing you always see, you want to write the book at and full and then… who you go in and see for yourself of publishing?… What’s the scenario around that? What generally happens?
Vinnie:
That’s a really good question. We really get it, we get it all ourselves, hiring all these people… I know there’s something they called him “Vanity presses”. You kind of and them of grip and they’ll go and literally if you’re selling the book for 10 and 12 bucks they will literally take the cost of the money,you’re going to get a dollar or 2 per book. We didn’t go to that route. We decided to rewrote the book and we’re book writers so we can lot of… we made the book exactly the way we wanted it and they we started hiring people and this is the important thing, we literally hire one of the editors that edits for [inaudible 0:18:02:6] and the sign of excuse these people work a lot of their company and we let that guy added the book. The one thing that people gets stood out Brett is they feel like “Oh… I know how to spell, I know how to do sentence structure, and I don’t need to spend that $1500 – $2000 to get someone to add it. Yes you do… Trust me you do… The other thing we did we went to a company calls, tele markets price and anyone could go to this company, as a matter of fact we learned about the company from reading a book written by John Locke, sold I ,think a million books in 5 months. Now of course he was telling 1500 bucks but whose also signed for 99c, and we saw the full price book, but we took a lot of advice from him we saw the name tele markets in his book. We went there, we talk to those people and this is so important. Our book came out on every form of electronics that is available anytime meaning, note, kindle or nowords.com, every type of e-book you can do. Also a current on demand and of course I read the audio book myself, now take that most people would go, “Okay! That’s 6 grand, maybe we spent 4500 I can’t remember, we spent maybe 4500 to 6 grand. I’m getting that book format for every given type of electronics that exist including current on demand. Now why is that important, it’s important because people want to get it the way they want to get it and we don’t want to have anyone say, “hate us and do barnsandnobles.com” So i won’t do that. You have to get your book formatted every which way it could be formatted and that cost a lot of money. But do it, so the 2nd piece of advice. The 3rd thing if you really believe in your product, do an audible.com now they tell you that most people would go on and sell a lot of audible books so that could take since we have a podcast and people want to hear the voice he will buy the book.
Brett:
So when it comes to audible.com, so let’s say you got your book, how do you go about did they just go to audible and yes submit an audio? or how was that work?
Vinnie:
The way we get it was I found the guy who literally records for audible.com. Now this is kind of hardy tardy because I live in that land, you could find those guys. But you can find someone, somewhere who have a sound studio and you keep going and record your own book. We use me as the voice because it was telling my voice to would’ve been odd if we have someone else… my voice… especially people we’re used to the podcast. I think we only spent like 1500 bucks on that guy to do the audio and then audible.com has a grouping under its system called “ACX” ACX is for the none publisher, or the soft publisher guys, guys like me, which is kind of cute and funny because ACX would beat all the other books this year w/c came from publishers. So that’s the other piece of good information there is a place for you to go at audible.com it’s called ACX and its covers everything that audible covers, you’d like any of the book, you don’t look any difference. The other thing I would tell people besides the audible thing, just skipping back a little bit. We get the cover of the book I don’t know if you’ve seen the cover of the book but that cover would not ever been approve by anyone. I am a 51 year old [inaudible0:22:10.4] on the cover of my own book screaming and I’ll make it and what of the world could you get away with that?
Brett:
Yeah! Yeah! Those books generally come with plastic where in presence.
Vinnie:
we see that you ask, we don’t say that in pieces but yeah there’s a naked old tag in there on the cover of the book, it’s not one book company who would put that cover from the book.
Brett:
Now you’ve certainly grab the attention which again with it comes to the whole psychology behind the title of the book and the cover of the book so, it’s certainly wonder people just buying it. Just because of the cover. Is it about the concept or it’s you?
Vinnie:
I think some people might look at it, it will certainly when you look at that fitness book can you see that cover? It will catch your eye because the picture is really close up, it’s kind of a dark background, you don’t know where this guys is and then the title right there, fitness confidential and get there and people love that.
Brett:
Excellent… Look I just want to take a moment for our listeners out there who are listening because fitness just really drops in them, some amazing knowledge here that can really end up taking notes myself and also be certainly following up with you Vinnie on another call because I’m actually going to the process of creating my first book as well but something you did say there that popped out and there’s just something that I am a big candidate on regardless with you’re looking to create a book or an online product or service even running your business… and you said that you need to have a web presence, now I couldn’t agree to you more on that because at the end of the day, your book could be the best book ever but on one’s ever going to read it if there’s no presence. So let’s talk about that for a moment and go… You’ve created a podcast in America’s English. How have you been able to get so many downloads? What’s the scenario, secret surrounds that?
Vinnie:
That’s probably the biggest place that I get. Now I literally do more business podcast and I actually do… I probably do 10, 12 podcast a week, maybe even 15 of other people show, not my show… Shows like this and literally most of them know business podcast and the one text craze I will hand out then I’ll tell you every speaker that I know… The biggest thing that I threw out there is there nothing passive about passive income at all. People that read the book will see that I’m the craftiest and when you’re not craftily, your guy who doesn’t know how to stop. Literally that’s what it takes… I’ll take it back a bit when Dean’s age at first [inaudible 0:25:17-0:25:19.0] The reason why it didn’t take it on was because we google Vinnie and absolutely no one knows Vinnie yet, his name doesn’t even appear in Google as a matter of fact it appeared that if you want to google, it will take you to a hack site of a blog that I used to do and it said hacked by the Diablo, the big cartoon picture of a Diablo… So you can only imagine that I have no presence of then that I was attacked by a devil and Dean said to me, you need to go back to the internet and start blogging again, and I had no… I just didn’t want to do it, there’s no way I was going to do it, and I setup a new site, a simple WordPress site, I didn’t do anything fancy write to WordPress, just the blank thing and started writing again, in about 3 or 4 blogs and I was talking to my nephew and I said Dean wants to do it again, it’s the only way we’ll saw these prob. These could take eyons, I don’t want to do it, and he said, “Why didn’t you do a podcast?” and I said great! What’s a podcast, and he said “Well when I was a kid you we’re in [inaudible 0:26:31:8] and you have a radio show called talking sickness, you can do that in the internet” and I was like, “Really?! You mean people like are going to listen?” because I don’t know I said we’ll how will you advertise this, he goes, “I don’t know”, he goes, “I know, I listen to him and I love him” So literally [0:26:50.0] every hearing a podcast, I called my friends and Lavatino and I said, “Ana , do you know anything about podcast?”, I don’t know a lot my husband and I did one , we did like 10 shows ,they’re up there, I said, “Can you help me do a couple?”, and she said “Sure!” She’s has a voice of professional, my co-host has improbable voice. I went over to her studio and she said, “Do you knowwhat to talk about, and I say, “Yes, that’s what I do every day” and we literally sat there day1 and get 5 shows all back to back to back and so we did 5 hours of podcast and she said, How did you come up with all these information? you don’t have a sheet of paper from up here I said, “Listen honey, I’m dancing from my gender right now because [inaudible 27:41] and the way I feel this is someone wants to listen to one of my shows I don’t want to wait again for another 3 weeks to hear another show, so I gave them 5 all at once and then I went on to do real week for almost a year to were [inaudible 27:57] 2 year mark right now and we’ve done close to 300 or 280 shows, I think 275 of them are up, but that’s me that’s what I do, I just take something and just keep running form it.
Brett:
Excellent! and congratulation to your 290 shows because I know that’s…. majority of podcast I can’t’ remember like 70% of podcast that make it pass your first 5 shows, so you are up to 290, let’s look at that then, and I know you’ve mentioned you have a co-host and that you talk fitness. What is some of the things you talked about on your show, like give us some few examples and some ideas that you might share about?
Vinnie:
You know at first there was this me talking to Anna and the cool thing about that was Anna knows nothing about fitness so she would ask the general question and by the way this wasn’t planned I was using Anna because she had a great voice and she have a studio but she also interested in learning how to get into shape. So the show became organic at first and people we’re buying into that and then some people figure that I wasn’t all [inaudible 29:14] so try athletes like paying attention and it’s started talking within their community, “Hey have you heard the sky started go long”, and you should listened to him that he’s talking about the wacky deity uses to beat while he’s on the bike. So that really help, but then that’s somewhere around the 1st year. Even before that in the 8 of 9th month, Gary Thompson the good calorie, the bad calorie and the why we get fat, what would do about it. He came on the show so that’s started the genemizing show that if people like Gary talk in a New York times best seller writer would come on, and then we had celebrities, Howie Mandel came on. Many driver came on show and that’s started giving us more litigiously and from that, we’ve had Dorothy timothy synopsis that on twice and he’ll come on at any time that rest of them has been on, Peter Atiya, Dr. Pro-mother of brain brand has been on, Dr. Kate Shanahan, now we have literally we’re literally with doctors all of this [inaudible 30:29] from around the world. Dr. Terry Walls from the walls protocol is coming on. I think we probably got eyes coming on at some point. Literally, we can beg these people come on in the 2st year and now they’re just lined up to be able on the show because they figure out that my show sell book. So they all show up…
Brett:
Fantastic and just want really have my couple of key points their because you don’t get the 280 episodes without like you said a lot of hard work and you said you just started with 5 episodes in your going three episode per week, it’s a definitely commitment there… so what stage did you really feel that the podcast was the committed of getting out to… to the world for yourself like when did you like that love by gulf and bay yup, this is definitely the mode elevated that we going to keep assuring?
Vinnie:
Wow that’s an interesting question, you know Anna was sitting there working for free and she does it for a living and I’m looking at this woman every week on she is literally working for free. I don’t have a dime to give her I can start pulling one out of my pocket but she wouldn’t have that and we didn’t know what to do and one day I got a phone call from this woman who told me, “Do you know whose Adam Coroley is? In your country?”
Brett:
No… Doesn’t ring a bell to me…
Vinne:
Okay… Adam Coroley probably the top podcast, one of the top podcast he was the big deal in this country. He and Jimmy Kimble he’s still have a show. He was a radio here for Dr. Drew for years and have this show called ” Love Line” So he have probably the biggest podcast in the world and a women from his show called the “Up and Day”, he said, “Were paying attention to you, what are your numbers?”, and they said, “We have an idea what’s the numbers are because iTunes won’t give us the numbers we keep asking”, she goes, “No Eddie you have to go to [inaudible 32:42] and someone else and they got the host to bought them the nail county. That’s how backward we work by the way Brett, we don’t even know about lifting and I went okay and she goes, for getting like 10,000 downloads a day that’s a big deal, and okay… so we called Lipton and we got to setup a Lipton and the medium they would find out that we we’re getting 50 or 60,000 downloads a month and we look to that move, “Wait a minute” People actually listening like we have no idea by the way, do you know how many downloads you get? Do you subtract that?
Brett:
Yes… So out of any recently to luipsum but we used blueberry and another like another WordPress plugin that comes into the backend of our system… So yeah… that was something that I guess I got them to fill it quickly… I guess some top of a guy here want to know… I guess for me it’s there was that and then the reason why I asked you that question of, at what time throughout your podcast. Did you really have that light bulb go off because what can happen if and I’m sure it’s happened to you as well but my podcast was speak to is.. Sometimes it can get quite tiring in regards… I want to make sure that my podcast is getting listened to by as many people as you as you possibly can. So when we first started our podcast, around 2 podcast one of them was from the fitness professionals and the other 2 are consumer who would call out Fitrix a female base and because my female base much larger than my professional base. The Fitchick podcast was getting listened to by thousands and thousands of people a month versus the personal trainer, this particular podcast now which guess listened to 5,000 trainers a month so it takes a lot less in regards to my viewership that of course the colony of people listening to this hour right now… will be people that they guarantee they ‘go and take your information and wouldn’t be surprise if I get emails next week when we publish this to forward to you as well that’s for sure but yeah… I guess the sure answer to that is yes, we certainly track and measure else statistics because obviously that’s for keep us doing the podcast that make sense.
Vinnie:
Yeah…You know the funny thing is that we know what the numbers are, we don’t track who they are, but my shoes is exceeds that they started… I’ve seen on the internet all the time the comedy of Howard Sterenov fitness podcast which is kind of a long title and we weren’t shooting that but Anna and I early on, we didn’t think anyone was listening and I was simply talk about her boob all time, time and because they’re huge at some point and she through out the sea board because she is a chicken, she could do that and people had quald it’s like a dirty fitness podcast it just came this thing that we…. once we became popular and we found out at that time we had 50,000 people, literally a month later we had 62,000 of them , and we would like to think we’ll never get to 100, and then we had a 100,000 and we couldn’t stop doing that kind of humor because everyone was expecting it and it’s kind of, so we still do it… as a matter of fact when finding having a vagina way competition right now, I’m having trouble women to come in to competition but I have spoken to a comedian who knows a bunch of pornstar who is [inaudible36:40] of those girls…
Brett:
That would be hilarious… but good point there because if you knew that you’re getting 100,000 listeners from day 1, would you have continued in that… Would you started in fashion or…?
Vinnie:
I don’t know that’s a good question, I don’t think if I will be really honest with myself I might even have put on like a radio porn for everybody… So I was [inaudible 37:08] we didn’t even use pop notes if there is any chance of getting in and yes smacking into the mic and the whole thing we just steal cash, we’ve steal car and sneeze and fart in this studio, we didn’t think anyone was listening. Sometimes people get annoyed by am I tapping the keyboard while we give a show, because you will write the show notes as I will go and then that became the thing when people like complaining about it when more and more people came on, when we we’re turn Anna’s mic off whenever I’m speaking, people got upset because they couldn’t hear tapping anymore so it’s amazing what people will hang on too….
Brett:
So good listens to take… That was totally be yourself, being naked and don’t…. for you I guess it was all my slack here, it was a lucky, lucky thing allowed you to be is unique as you are and obviously you’ve going to create that culture, followers, and clearly you’re doing something right over there was 350,000 downloads a month, I’m sure you’ll be a half million very shortly, but look Vinnie take your moment now and just thank you very much for taking your time and day to get on. I’ll show and cheers so much valuable information because I’ve taken a lot from myself now we really excited to get some of this things cranking… Now we’re can our listeners find out, give us with a [inaudible 38:40] about your book and also were I can start listening to your podcast faraway.
Vinnie
Okay… I have a website vinnietortorich.com, you’ll see the fitness confidential there, or you keep straight to amazon and buy the book there for audible.com, you could do that. The podcast if you go thru the iTunes install the “Angriest trainer podcast” once again you can put my name in there, what else… Oh by the way if Brett yeah… contact me off the air, I’ll give you every bit of information we have literally mail all to you said you can get your book on, and if we can help you in any way [inaudible 39:34] I will help anyone solve problem solve… I went to publish you were they take the line share of the money and you take nothing
Brett:
I’ll repay you as scotch how’s that?
Vinnie:
You know if you could do that [inaudible 39:50 – 39:52] podcast… When I’m done talking to you I could be talking to the chick…
Brett:
You’ll be a men, you’ll be a men next….
Vinnie:
Please I am begging on you,
Brett:
Yeah! Mr. Love is still rocking!
Vinnie:
I need to do that chick podcast…
Brett:
He is scoping for vagina weight lifting… So what are the… to all our listener’s out there have you enjoyed the show today? All the show in nights and links to Vinnie’s book and so forth will be on the blog, so hit over the two fiitprofessional.com.au and you’ll be able to find it all there, but Vinnie’s once again thank you so much and that’s correct, if you’re going to need famous last words for us…
Vinnie:
No listen the only thing I got to say, “If you have a dream, don’t just dream, wake up and do it”…
Brett:
There you go! I love it! Thanks mate!
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